Playwright and speechwriter Mike Long arrives in a long black cape and curly cue mustache to talk with me about the uber-value of a great villain, in both fiction and public rhetoric. Gus from Breaking Bad? Hannibal Lecter? Trump? Wanna get people involved? Give them someone to hate, baby.
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